A mildly apathetic intro

topic posted Wed, April 21, 2004 - 6:54 AM by  Peter
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I don't habitually "introduce" myself to online groups, but this seems like a strange watershed moment that compels me to write a few words....

I guess I have been guilty of sheer intellectual arrogance in thinking that I had to be "alone in the world" in simply not *caring* whether there is "God" or "not-God." Of course, I handily assign some of the blame for my soliptic thoughts on my environment, having lived for some 20-odd years in the Texas Bible Belt. Heck, I'm only 90 miles from Waco, and I live in what the 7 liberals of the area refer to as Williamson-by-God County. The people who owned the house before us conducted Baptisms in the creek at the bottom of the yard. Uh-huh.

I never knew there was a "name" for this. In a sense, it makes me a little nervous-- and I almost didn't join the tribe, because of it-- since, after 43 years of life, it would imply that I have suddenly become an "-ist." I suppose I should just shut up and take solace in the fact that I have finaly proved myself human, by succumbing to one of the most *basic* drives: The desire to feel some kind "connection" with other humans.

I was first called a "soulless" and "intellectually lazy" individual around age 11, by an uncle who had taken me to church. He asked me "Can't you FEEL the presence of God?" With the innocence of a slightly smart-alecky pre-teen, I replied "No, the only thing I can feel is the presence of mildew."

Maybe you have found better solutions than I, but I have always struggled with *explaining* myself, when a social setting pressures me to do so. Well, not "always," but at least since I moved to Texas, where "Church Chat" is a common component of daily conversation. Short of a 40-page dissertation.... explaining that I am NOT religious, yet NOT an Agnostic, and NOT an Atheist always feels like hard and tedious work. Ultimately, it's just that I don't feel a compulsion to have "other-referenced justification" for my actions-- be they rooted in belief, or non-belief. Frankly, I am grateful to Atheists and Religionists alike, for they all give me "bits" of useful information that contributes to my own "life philosophy." I am am even grateful to the "Religid" for teaching me the value (and pitfalls) of blind singlemindedness.

Reading between the lines, it isn't so much the "lack of _____" that bothers people, but rather the fact that what I tell them leaves them "uncomfortably fumbling" for a suitable pigeonhole in which to categorize and "file" me. And it makes *me* feel somewhat uncomfortable that I am making others uncomfortable. Does anyone else relate to that?

Well, MORE than enough said....
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Peter
Seattle
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  • Re: A mildly apathetic intro

    Wed, April 21, 2004 - 2:48 PM
    i don't usually introduce myself either. and until i read the tribe thingie, i didn't know such a word existed either. this was never discussed in any relavant college classes.

    so, yes, it's good to be here, to learn and have some fun.

    hi, all.
    • Re: A mildly apathetic intro

      Wed, April 21, 2004 - 8:07 PM
      Speaking of college classes, the best course I had in college dealt with the philosophy of religion. On day one the prof asked us to categorize ourselves. My response was that I normally answered "agnostic" or "atheist" depending on the situation but really didn't think either was fully appropriate. He told me to get off the fence. When forced to choose I said "atheist" but if I had been clear minded enough, or had heard of apatheism that's how I should have responded. Now I consider the fence irrelevant.
      • Re: A mildly apathetic intro

        Thu, April 22, 2004 - 7:32 AM
        Ever since high school, I have found it entertaining when confronted with a form or application that had a space for "religion" to fill in "autotheist" - I am god.

        - Lorne
        • Re: A mildly apathetic intro

          Mon, April 26, 2004 - 2:29 PM
          I love it! Very Buhddist. Who is it that makes the grass green? Why me, I'm God, of course!

          Reminds me of one of my hubby's best friend's response to the standard interview question: "If you could be anyone in history, who would you be?". His reply: "God".

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